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  What to say to JWs at a funeral

  by dogon in

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  my father passed away this week.

  we are going to have a funeral for him.

  he was not a witness for many years but a lot of his family is still associated.

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  Pete Zahut

  My Father wasn't a JW when he passed away but was associated for years.

  You might hear:

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  We look forward to seeing your Dad again soon, he'll surely be in the resurrection.

  Make sure you are there to welcome him back.

  That's very kind of you to say...if there are indeed good things in store for mankind in the future, I see no reason why both Dad and I won't be a part of it as well.
  

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  Are you planning to return to Jehovah?

  Will we be seeing you at the meetings again soon?

  The end is so close....we can't take any chances and miss out on everlasting life.

  I appreciate your concern and I'm sure you'll understand why I might not want to answer that question just now.
  
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  Lett's Historic Moment

  by Icarus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with all the furor over the jw's cash strapped pleas, i'm surprised no one noticed a different issue with this broadcast.

  it was historic!

  yes, all 7 of the gb have broadcast in the 7 months of the channel's existence!

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  P Z : "They have always claimed that from a Biblical standpoint, the number 7 represented "Earthly Completeness"--

  Well shut my mouth....no wonder I always got failing marks on the written review.

  Earthly or otherwise, it sounds like they are worried about running"completely" out of money.
  
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  Lett's Historic Moment

  by Icarus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with all the furor over the jw's cash strapped pleas, i'm surprised no one noticed a different issue with this broadcast.

  it was historic!

  yes, all 7 of the gb have broadcast in the 7 months of the channel's existence!

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  Pete Zahut

  Yes, all 7 of the GB have broadcast in the 7 months of the channel's existence! Is that not HISTORICAL?

  They have always claimed that from a Biblical standpoint, the number 7 represented "Earthly Completeness" .

  Here they are on the 7th month of broadcasting, solicited for donations.

  Maybe it's because they're "completely " out of money?
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  Kingdom Hall loans Cancelled? Lurkers...please read

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hope that writing this, there will be some lurkers that i can shake.. if you have not listened to mays tv broadcast, please do.

  it may wake some up.. note @ around 21-22 minutes into the broadcast lett brings up the the kingdom halls/assembly hall loans have been cancelled and the congregation can now send in what they can afford.

  wow...how many banks would do that?.

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  Pete Zahut

  Let me make sure I've got this correctly.

  JW's donate money to the Society (Jehovah's Money) for the purpose of building Kingdom Halls and furthering the preaching work. The Society uses donated money (Jehovah's Money) to give to the Congregations to build Kingdom Halls but they want the money back from the same people who donated the money in the first place. Then they make a big deal about generously and lovingly cancelling the loan but behind the scenes make it clear that they still want their money back and they want to see an increase in the donations because they are having money woes.

  Have I got it right?
  
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  May tv.jw.org program

  by zophar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the may broadcast on tv.jw.org.

  we need money!.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.

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  Pete Zahut

  It may be too late now, but if I were them, I'd keep the Governing Body off JW. TV and out of the public eye. Let them remain a magical mystery to the rank and file. Presidents, Kings and Queens know that it is not good for their public image if they are seen too often to in too much detail by the common people.

  I noticed they (subtly) showed a Sister going online from her Ipad to make a credit card donation to the Society. As relative newbies to the Internet, I'm wondering what kinds of security checks and balances they have going on their side of things. I had all my money stolen from me when I was a Bethelite. Wouldn't it be something if someone from the inside who needed funds to get out, hacked into the credit card account or a contributor(s)?

  A few things I want to know.

  • If there are nearly 8 million JW's and each of those 8 million, contributed say...1 dollar per month (most give more), where are those 8 million dollars per month / 96Million per year, going ? Are they really bad at managing money or is it going somewhere we don't know about?
  • Why do they need a 1 million dollar plus regional translation office? These days, most of this work can be done remotely or on a laptop in a home office.
  • All people need is a Bible translated into their language. Why is it necessary to keep printing all this new literature every month? Surely every necessary biblical topic has been covered at least a dozen times in the last decade. Why not reprint those articles or edit them when doctrines change?
  • Why isn't Gods word enough to reach people now the way it was in the Apostles day? If they didn't create all this printing work for themselves, it wouldn't take so many millions per month to spread the word and would eliminate the need for the thousands of Bethelites who's time is tied up cleaning rooms, growing food, doing laundry and printing endless magazines.
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  May tv.jw.org program

  by zophar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the may broadcast on tv.jw.org.

  we need money!.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.

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  Pete Zahut

  Quick observations after viewing the Video.

  • My kind patient wife who loves everybody....can't stand to watch Lett...which is so unlike her.
    
  • Lett kept referring and comparing the Watchtower to "other publishing companies".
  • He kept referring to the Governing Body in the third person as if he wasn't part of it.
  • I noticed they didn't dare to use the scripture at Luke 14:28 about sitting down and counting the cost before building a tower. It appears they must have assumed a certain amount of donations would be there to cover all the building they've been doing and didn't actually have the funds. Maybe they HAD to sell the Brooklyn properties.
  • He didn't give any numbers showing that it is the growth of the organization that has caused the need for new Kingdom Halls. He'd surely be bragging if that were the case.
  • He didn't mention the reason they need new Halls is because the sold off the valuable ones.
  • All of the experiences of JW's shown in the videos lately have been indicating that Jehovah does intervene in peoples lives today and make good things happen. It's as if they're really encouraging magical thinking more these days. Perhaps they think it will help with donations. Give a lot....Get blessings.
    
  • Lett is probably kindly, simple, naive and deluded...he has obviously been coached in his gestures and voice modulation but still doesn't quite get it. He was "acting " the whole time....none of it was genuine or spontaneous.
  • I think the rest of the GB trot Lett out in front of the camera whenever there's something to say that would embarrass the rest of them. They know that kind hearted JW's will cut him more slack than they will any of the rest of them.
    
  • There will be JW's who will be pushed over the edge by this video and will begin fading or will move on mentally at least.
    
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  May tv.jw.org program

  by zophar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the may broadcast on tv.jw.org.

  we need money!.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.

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  Pete Zahut

  This was an Infomercial for the WTBTS and as usual there is no verifiable proof of any thing they said. All of the explanations of what they are doing with the money and the "experiences" meant to tug at your heart strings, have more holes in them than Sponge Bob. No data, no graphs, charts or numbers....only anecodtes told by those still under the spell of the Watchtower Corporation. In one of the "experiences" about a newly baptized family man who quit his job as a cook rather than work Sunday and attend a meeting at another Hall, they actually said that Jehovah listens more readily to the prayers of those who have the status of being "newly baptized". He was encouraged to leave his job because of this and it took him 6 months to find another but he Pioneered on whle drawing unemployment benefits, until another job turned up. Most people would have either gone to a Sunday meeting later in the day or would have secured a job before leaving the one they had.
  

  As far as Bro. Lett, I'm trying to imagine the spokesman for Amazon or Apple speaking to stockholders or prospective customers in such a childish and exaggerated manner or offering such feeble examples of what they are doing and why they should continue to be supported.
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  One short New Testament verse sums up the problem with faith.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "for we are walking by faith, not by sight" 2 corinthians 5:7. that's it right there.

  don't value the evidence of your own eyes or trust what you can measure and test; no, just have faith.. the frustration is that even when this is pointed out to the devout believer they still don't see the problem.

  they still see faith as a virtue and something superior to 'sight'..

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  Pete Zahut

  The trouble is, growing up as a JW, there was always a mixed message. On one hand they wanted you to have faith and wait on Jehovah to clear up all the things that don't make sense. Then on the other hand, when it suited them, instead of faith being enough, they went to great lengths, employing lengthy and convoluted explanations of Bible doctrine, providing dates and supposedly faith strengthening evidence that I blindly trusted and had faith in until it all turned out to be incorrect. They told me to have faith in THEM and THEIR explanations or the evidence they provided.
  

  I realize that myself and many others were using the word faith to feel good about not wanting to bother looking any further.
  
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  Would you call JW HQ???

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a friend who is still in.

  this friend is a partaker, but has serious doubts about the org.

  this friend wants to stand up as a man, and wants to call wtbts hq.

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  If this "friend" is truly of the Anointed, shouldn't answers to these kind of questions have already been revealed to him by the most high?

  In the past, they were supposedly the one's who us regular folks would turn to for answers to the more perplexing questions and they'd be the ones to tell us "what's what" and "who's who".
  
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  Am I the only "witness here besides the admins?

  by TheOnlyRealWittnessHere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.

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  the topic pretty much says everything..

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  Pete Zahut

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